In this episode legendary UX designers @DougCollinsUX and @PavelASamsonov join me in the very first three-way podcast conversation. We originally planned to talk about how UX designers deal with Product Owners but quickly pivoted into the subject of what career options UX designers have these days, Product Owner being one of them. This discussion was really great and we also kept it short and sweet at 30ish minutes. We would love to hear any questions or comments that you guys may have! Thank you for tuning in!